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MichaelCfffg

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I'm starting this thread with some trepidation, cause I'm aware that it can be a controversial subject with some.

Anyway, I'm in Franklin County, in a CWD management area, and I just got a post card from the Missouri Conservation Department this week, inviting me to log in and apply for CWD Management permits. I'm just curious to hear from others in these management areas. Do you participate in these management programs, and what has been your success rate in culling out diseased deer?

A lot of locals I talk to are really hostile about this management program. They're convinced that the MCD is trying to get all the deer in their area killed off, and they won't have deer anymore. What are your thoughts?
 
Since the MDC has become completely political and has ignored science based management,I have completely lost any trust I had in them. The CWD program is probably more of the same. I do believe that steps need to be taken but how much of the current program is politically motivated? The wild hog problem comes to mind immediately. They have outlawed hog hunting because they said that hunting was spreading the population, in reality that is not the case. The spreading population was a few individuals either releasing captive hogs or by trapping and transplanting them into new areas to increase opportunity for hunting. The hog trappers I have seen in this area are a joke and they also bait large areas of the national forest to eliminate deer hunting in those areas during the firearms deer season. What the books don’t tell them is that there are some hogs that cannot be trapped, they are a very intelligent animal and they learn quickly to avoid the traps. The same applies to helicopters. They have reduced the population dramatically BUT, the only way to eliminate the hog problem is to allow hunting. I was involved with a farm owner that wanted the hogs eliminated on his farm. He invited the MDC to trap them, they caught 16 hogs. Immediately after they stopped trapping 3 of us killed over 50 pigs on the same property in a 3 month period with rifles. That’s proof enough for me that the “trained biologists” were trained by books and not by the real world experience that could effectively eliminate the problem.

I’m sorry for the rant but I can’t help but think that the CWD problem is being addressed by the same people that are “eliminating” the pigs!
 
MichaelCfffg said:
I'm starting this thread with some trepidation, cause I'm aware that it can be a controversial subject with some.

Anyway, I'm in Franklin County, in a CWD management area, and I just got a post card from the Missouri Conservation Department this week, inviting me to log in and apply for CWD Management permits. I'm just curious to hear from others in these management areas. Do you participate in these management programs, and what has been your success rate in culling out diseased deer?

A lot of locals I talk to are really hostile about this management program. They're convinced that the MCD is trying to get all the deer in their area killed off, and they won't have deer anymore. What are your thoughts?
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I hear ya, man. Folks around here get heated too. I've tagged along on a couple CWD hunts, I still saw plenty of deer after, it feels more like management than wipe-out, honestly
 
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In the coming days we are gonna take a look at the “spread” of CWD
The “funded” narrative says that it is contagious and that it spreads through “prions”. This creates funding for certain groups to “slow the spread”, a tactic that has not worked in 60 years.
The advanced studies of Dr. Christopher Seabury says that genetics plays a major role in deer that get CWD. This can be found in the GEBV or breeding value that every single deer is born with.
Why is it that a county in Wisconsin like Sauk, Richland, Iowa or Green county (all of which are close together) can have a case and through testing it is discovered that prevalence is high, however another county can have a case for just as long and prevalence remains low for decades. Why is it that Fayette and Hardeman Couties in TN are only high in prevelance in one quadrant of those counties, same for Marshall and Benton in MS. Speaking of MS, it was found in the delta first. Why did they not find high prevelance there like the the way they did in Benton and Marshall counties.
All of these CWD hot spots like NW Arkansas, Southern Converse County of Wyoming, the Southern farmland of Wisconsin, the small area of Benton and Marshall county MS, that connects to Fayette and Hardeman counties in TN would each certainly have one thing in common. The same genetics, replicated over and over through breeding. If mother nature works it out, those that are healthy and live longer pass on more superior genetics, those that don’t live longer do not pass on those bad genetics. Common sense right!
So what happens when the herd is thinned through culling healthy deer? you guessed it…Zero chance of the genetics changing.
Isn’t it ironic that sheep and goats have a TSE disease just as deer do and that the disease scrapie was dimimished through breeding. The global population of sheeps and goats is immensely larger than the population of deer. However those funded like National Deer Association belittle the findings and say it can’t be cured through genetics, what is even more comical…its actually sad, is that they quote universities that were funded THAT VERY YEAR of the articles they publish, (They should atleast you know, not do it the same year they get funded) They do not even care how slimy it is
They do not wish to let Mother Nature work it out, as that takes away their funding, and fake game plans to fight CWD.
Lots to come this week on the hypocrisy of those funded, as they destroy the heritage of deer hunting. They choose to ignore the only commom sense thing that will work. Yet they tell us to trust the science.
 
Tommy Horton makes sense. Granted there are spots where over population is/has occurred to the detriment of farmers' livelihoods. There are nuisance permits available to handle that problem. Deer eat grain crops, sometimes when they first come up, sometimes when ready to harvest.

With no natural predators, deer do what all wildlife are wont to do, overpopulate until starvation and/or disease does a correction. Studies done years ago on urban deer problems revealed a basic fact. The areas experiencing the most problems had "leash laws" prohibiting free-running dogs. Simple stuff - dogs chase deer. Onto roads where cars kill deer. Dogs also kill fawns. As cities and subdivisions expand, leash laws follow.

I wonder how many hunters will waste a tag on an obviously sick deer and take it in to be tested, knowing that if "positive", the next step is to have every deer in the neighborhood killed is not an abstract possibility.
 
sheriffjohn said:
I wonder how many hunters will waste a tag on an obviously sick deer and take it in to be tested, knowing that if "positive", the next step is to have every deer in the neighborhood killed is not an abstract possibility.
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I have and will continue to do so if I think an animal is suffering needlessly or acting strangely. I did shoot a small buck a few years ago that was obviously very sick and showed absolutely no fear of me. I called the local conservation agent and he reissued my tag and took the deer. I think anyone who calls themselves a hunter should do the same, it’s just the right thing to do IMHO. My best friend shot a deer during the early antlerless season this year that was limping badly, apparently had been caught in a fence and severely injured a hind leg and hoof.
 
An obviously sick deer needs to be put out of it's misery, especially if it appears to be sick with something like CWD that is a threat to the rest of the herd.

And the next step is not to have every deer in the neighborhood killed. I'm in a CWD problem area, and they target just a small percentage of the local deer to bring the local population down enough to cut down on continuous interaction between the overpopulated herd.
 

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